DUST Search - Redzone Sniping?

ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:

Sgt Buttscratch wrote:

Counter snipe....

Us snipers see weapons with a higher FR than 50.0 as unfair, or the fact the rendering is beyond screwed. Or damage was screwed with in a bad way, or should I say, another shield favored change.
How bout you get on with your game and leave us to play using our tactics, don't like it don't do it, don't like others doing it, blow their ******* skulls out. We are using the map, as it is given to us, and on my screen, Iam NOT in the redzone. I don't get a gtfo countdown.

Your safe zone is the enemies red zone and is not visible to you. THAT'S why you don't get a count down and that's why people hate it. To be high up in the mountains takes more then 20 seconds do to the poor mountain mechanics and therefore can take longer then 20 seconds to reach you, let alone actually kill you.

I agree that snipers got gimped with the whole graphics thing (P*sses me off) and I feel that very much needs to be fixed.

Not everyone is good at sniping so people really need to stop telling others to just counter snipe! That's like a hardcore sniper losing his rifle and going up against a shield tank. Would it be fair to just say "Just call your own tank" even though you've never spent a single point in tanks? Or seeing a heavy coming for you and players say "Switch to your heavy set" when, as a sniper, you probably only use a logi or light suit? The game should never have a "Fight fire with fire" mentality cuz then all the diversity would be ruined.

The OP is not complaining about how far you guys are sniping from but the fact that you are protected by a field of instant death (have yet to see that in RL so stop f*cking using that as an excuse). If you are out of the red zone and still getting long range kills and the enemy still can't get to you then it's there own fault and I have yet to see anyone complain about that.

When you use a dropship to get to an inaccessible location and snipe, nobody complains (although irritating) as it's deemed to be just another tactic and most players (snipers and non-snipers alike) feel that it's actually a smart move.

So in short, it's your invisible guardian that nobody likes, NOT your actual location. If the redzone was gone then there wouldn't be a single complaint towards snipers. My suggestions would allow honorable snipers to know exactly if they are within the safe zone or not so they can leave while the OP is designed to punish the cowards that use it as a crutch.

`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST Cool


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Raist Soulforge the troll hord 16	Posted - 2013.07.28 03:51:00 - [1] - Quote ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Counter snipe.... Us snipers see weapons with a higher FR than 50.0 as unfair, or the fact the rendering is beyond screwed. Or damage was screwed with in a bad way, or should I say, another shield favored change. How bout you get on with your game and leave us to play using our tactics, don't like it don't do it, don't like others doing it, blow their ******* skulls out. We are using the map, as it is given to us, and on my screen, Iam NOT in the redzone. I don't get a gtfo countdown. Your safe zone is the enemies red zone and is not visible to you. THAT'S why you don't get a count down and that's why people hate it. To be high up in the mountains takes more then 20 seconds do to the poor mountain mechanics and therefore can take longer then 20 seconds to reach you, let alone actually kill you. I agree that snipers got gimped with the whole graphics thing (Psses me off) and I feel that very much needs to be fixed. Not everyone is good at sniping so people really need to stop telling others to just counter snipe! That's like a hardcore sniper losing his rifle and going up against a shield tank. Would it be fair to just say "Just call your own tank" even though you've never spent a single point in tanks? Or seeing a heavy coming for you and players say "Switch to your heavy set" when, as a sniper, you probably only use a logi or light suit? The game should never have a "Fight fire with fire" mentality cuz then all the diversity would be ruined. The OP is not complaining about how far you guys are sniping from but the fact that you are protected by a field of instant death (have yet to see that in RL so stop fcking using that as an excuse). If you are out of the red zone and still getting long range kills and the enemy still can't get to you then it's there own fault and I have yet to see anyone complain about that. When you use a dropship to get to an inaccessible location and snipe, nobody complains (although irritating) as it's deemed to be just another tactic and most players (snipers and non-snipers alike) feel that it's actually a smart move. So in short, it's your invisible guardian that nobody likes, NOT your actual location. If the redzone was gone then there wouldn't be a single complaint towards snipers. My suggestions would allow honorable snipers to know exactly if they are within the safe zone or not so they can leave while the OP is designed to punish the cowards that use it as a crutch. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST . Small flaw in this approach I keep seeing in these threads. A sniper in an inaccessible location is still a sniper in an inaccessible location....whether that is in the redline or on the top of a tower that can only be accessed via a drop ship. You have to deal with them both in the same way---you have to find a way to shoot them from a distance. The problem is less of an issue with the redzone's protection (as you yourself already pointed out, there are other "valid" locations that provide protection from knifers/shotgunners/other short/closerange attacks), but more an issue that people either think they can't or otherwise won't choose to use an alternative approach. That may be because they aren't proficient enough with the free militia sets or didn't speck into better options. Either way, they for whatever reason don't see anything other than sneaking up on them as a viable tactic, no matter how many people try to tell them otherwise. So long as that is their only approach to dealing with a sniper, there will ALWAYS be sniping positions they can't deal with because they can't climb up behind them (ie: towers with no ladders that require the use of a dropship for access). TLDR: redline is not the problem... there are ways to deal with redline snipers, just people won't use viable tactics.